This Is Not A GTA IV Review

Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 at 11:18 am in General Gaming · Comments

Grand Theft Auto IV

Grand Theft Auto IV needs no introduction. It also doesn’t need another review, which is why you’re not going to read one here. But with such a notable reputation, and consequently a (climatic?) build-up to finally playing it, I feel I should at least note some of my thoughts accumulated over my current 20 hours of gameplay (which only clocks in at 31% completed. Wow).

Admittedly the last GTA game I actually played was the 2D, top down ones on the original PlayStation (I can hear you all gasping). GTA IV was new territory, and having loved the simplicity of the original, I wasn’t sure how I’d take to the maturity in gameplay and environment. Sounds crazy, I know, but Sonic The Hedgehog continues to prove that some games just work better in 2D. Add to that my uncertainty of Niko Bellic (I didn’t find him instantly likable), and you have what can only be described as apprehension. Ultimately, I wasn’t really sure what to expect.

The Combat - GTA got off to a bad start. Earlier missions are all about hand to hand combat, which turns out to be GTA IV’s major weakness. Having that exposed immediately didn’t bode well for initial impressions. Firearms are easier to handle, but I found myself cursing the auto-lock system all too often. When certain missions require you to take various fleeing gang members down in a busy street, accidentally locking onto a pedestrian instead, which happens more than it should, leads to a lot of unnecessary frustration

Auto-lock. I’ll never understand it.

The Hype - My first mention of GTA via Twitter spurred the most replies any of my Tweets has ever had. The words “tedious” and “boring” cropped up a lot, and hazarding a guess, I’d say most people haven’t had the desire to even finish the main plot. So with a bad experience in combat, and a ton of criticism directed towards the game, I wasn’t too excited about advancing.

Niko BellicThe City - Okay, so the free roaming nature and incredible environment is GTA’s flagship feature, right? GTA IV - unlike most games - feels real. When I’m swaggering around Liberty City in my cheap tracksuit, I actually feel involved in the surroundings, especially as it’s very possible to eavesdrop in on pedestrians interesting conversations (”So… Did you actually go down on that girl?”).

I’ve played and enjoyed Saints Row, and while they’re both similar games, Saints Row (I can only speak for the original) didn’t pay attention to detail like Rockstar has. Quite literally no corner is overlooked, and this doesn’t go unappreciated. Each area of the city has its own personality, which makes quite an incentive for exploring the island. What I thought would be a possible downfall of the game (was I going to find it too much?) has turned out to be the element that’s impressed me most. And as I unlock more of the city, it only gets better.

The Characters - I didn’t find the idea of playing as Niko Bellic remotely exciting in the beginning, especially with his constant whinging about his disappointment regarding the ‘American Dream’. He was, in a nutshell, instantly dislikable. But his cousin, Roman, was much more exciting; an unattractive and under-achieving middle aged man who believes the ladies adore him. Bless.

His rapport with Niko is worth watching unfold, and it was actually this rapport that warmed me to Niko. I stopped wishing for Bellic to transform into the cliched video game protagonist, and just accepted him for who he was. Now, I actually like the fact he’ll murder a man without a blink of the eye, or that he’s so wishy washy about everything, including his relationships with women.

The Missions - Sometimes I feel there’s too much to do. In fact, scratch that. I feel there’s too much to do all the time. Keeping everyone in my contacts happy, advancing with the plot, progressing with side missions, dating, socialising, answering calls, responding to emails… Give me a break! And as I’ve spent some time alone around the city, shopping for clothes, topping up my ammo, recharging my batteries, I’ll inevitably get that call. You know, that call? “Hey Niko, it’s your cousin, Roman. Let’s go see some titties, huh?”.

Whilst GTA offers a massive environment to explore at your own peril, it feels for the most part to be one big tease; you’re only going to get interrupted and called away on your next duty. It feels akin to the days you could only ‘go out to play’ after tackling your school homework. Except your homework never actually ends. Such is the life of a criminal.

Ultimately, I’m super impressed with the latest in the GTA series, and I’m happy to have finally made the (long overdue) jump to 3D Grand Theft Auto. With each session, of which I’m putting in 3-4 hours each sitting, I can feel my addiction growing stronger, and at 20 hours in I think I’ve seen it all, but then again, I’m going to assume you can never get too comfortable with life in Liberty City. That said, I won’t be giving up on the missions irrespective of how “tedious” they become. Why? Because there’s so much more to do. And that is the sheer beauty, and excitement, of Grand Theft Auto IV.

How far did you get, and how many of you actually completed the game? Is there anyone who finished the plot, 100% the game, and played the DLC?

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24 Responses to “This Is Not A GTA IV Review”

# September 29th, 2009 at 11:35 am

GTA IV is an awesome game. Yes, it can get a bit tedious, but as you so rightly said, there’s so much to do, so if you get bored of one thing, crack on with the next!

I have finished the game, and got 100% even though it took me over a year (not of constant playing but picking it up from time to time!). I’m now on the Lost & Damned DLC although that hasn’t impressed me much (i’ve never been a fan of motorbikes)!

Nice read! Makes me want to finish TLAD & then replay the original game!


# September 29th, 2009 at 11:37 am

There were two things that I hated about GTAIV that really ruined the game for me; the story, and driving controls.

The story has been the best part of all the 3D GTA games (ever), and in Vice City and San Andreas it was HUGELY rewarding. As you progress through the game your character gets bigger, more important, and starts literally taking over the city. You get to own businesses, houses, airports, boat yards, tons of huge garages, etc. It’s a real sense of accomplishment when you get to the end because you feel like “this is your city now”.

The above is totally not the case with GTAIV - you get to the end (with a fairly mundane final mission), the credits roll, and you’re left with a feeling of “what..? that’s it?”. No fairy tale ending, no to-be-continued, no close of the plot, no potential to take the story further, and you don’t own the city even one little bit.

Now as for the driving, in all past GTA games the driving controls have been FUN over realistic. For some reason in GTAIV they decided to change that, now if you brake (no matter what speed you’re traveling at) you WILL spin around in a 180 degree twirl like a f!@£$ing ballerina. Want to go round a corner? Sorry, no can do. Slow down to 3mph and try that again.
It completely ruined the experience for me, maybe even more so than the story mode. If I wanted to drive a realistic car that couldn’t be thrown around corners at 100mph then I’d go out and drive my REAL car. But I don’t - I want some fun, and that’s what was missing.

GTAIV was the first GTA game (of the 3D ones) where I didn’t bother to finish the story mode in one go. I played it for a week, then left it for 6 months and finished it off.

Oh and the expansion pack (The Lost & The Damned) has some cool features, but overall was equally disappointing for all the same reasons.


# September 29th, 2009 at 11:43 am

I just realised that was all pretty negative… don’t get me wrong it is a good game, I just felt that it was a let-down coming off the back of its predecessors.

You should play San Andreas and see for yourself :)


# September 29th, 2009 at 11:57 am

I absolutely loved the story and characters in GTA IV and I truly believe it’s ground-breaking in tackling socio-political themes in a video game.

The very fact that there is no happy-ending is the whole point of the game: it’s about the fallacy of the American dream and the treatment and experiences of immigrants seeking a new life in the land of the free.

Almost every character (even the so-called “big gangsters”) are hopelessly locked in pathetic attempts to scrounge a living from drugs, theft, prostitution or violence. There’s no champagne lifestyle and nobody lives the dream. It’s a brutal comment on modern America.

I loved it, and I’m not saying that because it’s made 5 minutes from my house.


# September 29th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

Only 2 things annoy me when playing GTA IV,

1: My oldest son Martin (Dad go that way!, do this, do that)
2: My Youngest Son Darren (Dad go that way!, do this, do that)

both boys completed the game 100% with massive mansions on the hill side, with massive 4×4 monster trucks in the drive along with all the hidden cars in the game, including the one behind a small pub, hid in the bushes with the carbon fiber bonnet.

there’s a full guide walk through for the game on my blog..
http://www.martin-gardner.co.uk/gta-iv-complete-walkthrough/


# September 29th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

Funny to see someone who has never played a 3D GTA and is now exploring GTA4 (1,5 years after the release).
I really was looking forward to play GTA4 (1,5 years ago) and played it right away. After a couple of months (didn’t play it non-stop) I finished the story-mode and never touched the game more than 3 times after that.
Maybe I should just redo the story-mode or something like that… but there are too many other good games getting released in the next couple of months.

I really enjoyed playing with Niko. I disliked his cousin, he was too big of a wuss.

But I’m glad you enjoy playing GTA4 too. Are you gonna touch the multiplayer as well? Or only singleplayer?


madmikeone

# September 29th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

I quite liked GTA 4, but I did as you find it somewhat tedious. Especially with going to the intenet cafe (could he simply not have had a BlackBerry?) and in some of the missions when you have a choice of who to kill, or whether or not to kill someone.
The most amazing part for me was the graphics. They were so realistic, you feel the need to just walk around to take full advantage of them. Noticing all the little things (some of my favourites include the business names and some of the things the randoms say, “Cheesy Vagina!” springs to mind)
I am impressed by this game but never actually got around to completing the whole storyline. I was up to the last mission, but as I was playing on an old small tv with a possibly dying bulb in it, it would become increasingly annoying and hard to see what is on screen.
I did have a little go at the Lost and Damned content where you play as a Biker. It didnt terribly impress me as being a biker doesnt appeal to me. But one thing I liked that the improved handling and making it alot harder to fall off your bike.


# September 29th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

@Johnonolan: I lend the game to my brother and after 15 minutes he dropped the controller and didn’t wanted to continue. He also found the driving controls awefull.

Me, I found you had to get used to the driving, but from the moment you was used to it… it was awesome! It was a mixture of realistic/fun… loved it!


# September 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

@RoanLavery - I loved all the things which you mentioned too, and Rockstar Games have always been groundbreaking and controversial in that respect. I didn’t say I wanted a happy ending - what I said was that I wanted AN ending, or something to wrap the plot up.. it just stopped dead!

I appreciate the reference to the American dream, and that makes for a good article (or maybe even book) on the subject, but I don’t think it’s exactly fitting to an interactive entertainment experience. :(

Why? Because it’s no fun. That may seem shallow - but it is after all the underlying reason for the existence of the gaming industry.


# September 29th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

@JohnONolan: I think the term “fun” is relative, or at least loaded. Is watching Schindler’s List fun? Nope. What about reading Nineteen Eighty-four? Not exactly cheery stuff either. But are these worthwhile and important works of media that people appreciate and enjoy? Fucking A!

I think games have a huge amount of scope for going beyond just visceral and fleeting entertainment. Rockstar North are clearly interested in that, while at the same time making something fun to play.

On a side note, have you played Braid? A really interesting and grown-up Xbox Arcade game that deals with fairly deep themes while pulling off a really fun platform puzzler.

http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/b/braidxboxlivearcade/


# September 29th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

Ok I’m prepared to agree with you on most of that, however would you in turn agree that the type of works of media that you’re describing are not equal to the types of gameplay that fans have come to know/love/expect from the GTA series?

I’m sure that your response to that will be “yes, but what’s wrong with going in a new direction?” - to which I’d normally say nothing.. but when it comes to games and music I really like publishers/bands to stick to what they’re good at.

I can’t stand it for example when I band that I love (like Incubus) tries to do something “new” (like Light Grenades) and totally loses sight of the reason I started listening to them in the first place.

It’s not “bad” technically speaking - but I don’t like it!


# September 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

Yep, I’ll definitely concede that it’s a change in direction for not only GTA but video games in general, which could put some people off. Personally, I’m all up for change as long as the end product is still good. Look at how the Beatles music changed over their career.

I’m not saying all video games need to be ponderous treaties on the unbearable lightness of being, but I do think there’s room for more than just explosions and beating hookers to death with baseball bats in the future of gaming.


# September 29th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

“I do think there’s room for more than just explosions and beating hookers to death with baseball bats in the future of gaming.”

lol. wut??


Dan

# September 29th, 2009 at 2:25 pm

I’ve never liked a single GTA game.

Maybe a bold statement but a true one, none the less. I don’t care about the characters or “plot” enough to give a crap about the missions and the novelty of walking around stealing cars and killing people wears off after about 10 minutes.

In recent iterations the “Imma bust a cap in that [N Word]’s ass!” crap just pissed me off. It’s obvious why they made it like that; To keep the spotty, slack jawed hang-out-outside-mcdonalds crowd happy and sell a lot of 18 rated games to under 18s but seriously, the franchise is about one Samuel L. Jackson voice over away from turning me into the Hulk.

GTA IV is a looker, no doubt about it. But if the most enjoyable part of a game is looking at the pretty environment, I don’t count it as a success.

Just my 0.002 cents.


# September 29th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

Dan I have to say that I’ve yet to come across something that you DO like…. :)


# September 30th, 2009 at 3:39 am

I’m nowhere near completing the game, even though I got it midnight of release day! (This is why I can never sell games back for any kind of value, I literally take forever to play them.) I end up getting stuck on some mission or other, and then just spend time driving around smashing my car up. I generally feel the same as you - I love the world and the attention to detail. I like how much stuff there is available to do, but I do wish they’d cool it with the “hey, you wanna do ____” phone calls all the time.

I know it feels weird to recommend a many-years-old-Xbox game, but you oughta go back and play San Andreas. Even though GTA IV is leaps and bounds ahead of it in characterization and graphics, San Andreas is just plain crazy shit fun. I still pop it in now and again - I found it much more addicting than I did GTA IV.


Dan

# September 30th, 2009 at 9:35 am

@ John… Yeah I’m a bitter old bastard. But in all honesty I’m not a big gamer. I don’t own a current console or a PC powerful enough to play current games.


# October 1st, 2009 at 8:58 am

I’ve started playin GTA IV again, I have forgotten how great it is. Though the game really need some kind of “checkpoint” system for the missions, it’s kind of annoying when you die in the middle of the mission and have to start over, and doing the whole -> Drive the whole way there -> Do the 10-20 min mission.

Before the game was released I pretty much hoped for a grittier, darker and more realistic game. It definitely is, but I wanted it to be more realistic like pedestrians calling the cops, the cops caring if you drive past them in 1000 miles per hour.

I wanted the police to be on my ass, if I drove carelessly. I wanted the game to actually force the player to take taxis, use a bike or whatever to get to their destination, act like a normal citizen and do all the shady stuff at night time.

oh well, I guess it’s hard to blend the “all fun GTA” with the “realistic darker GTA”. Guess you’ll upset fans both ways if you go to far from the original formula.


# October 1st, 2009 at 8:10 pm

I hate to say it, but I’m still in a rut with GTA IV. Whenever I play it, it feels like pulling teeth. So to feel satisfied, I’ve fired up Uncharted, Bioshock, and Arkham Asylum- absolutely anything other than GTA IV to get my gaming fix!

I’m currently wavering whether I’m going to tackle Fallout 3 or Far Cry 2 next. I think I’m going through a stage where I’m getting bored of games very quickly, although the upcoming Uncharted 2 and Assassin’s Creed II should keep me quiet for the time being.

I think I need to seek professional help over this! Anyhow, enjoy GTA IV! As long as you enjoy it, that’s the only thing that matters.


# October 4th, 2009 at 11:29 am

Great writeup Ash and thanks for taking the time to do it.

I’m still ploughing my way through the game. Only about 60% complete. Seems to take forever to get through this beast and thats taking no more than 2/3 attempts on the missions.

I’m finding the maps to be quite glichy, rendering doesn’t quite catch up at the best of times. Sometimes its like Niko is hovering about. Dunno if it’s my Xbox or not?

As far as realism goes, I think they got it just right for this time round. It’s fun enough for me to continue this many hours into it!

Just my 2 pennys worth, ave a good day. :)


Rockers Delight

# October 4th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

Wow, I don’t even know where to start with replying to comments, especially as there was a bit of a debate between John and Roan ;)

@MRQWEST Like you, I’m not too excited about the idea of motorbikes in GTA, so I’m not sure if I’ll be downloading TLAD. At least not in a hurry.

@John I have to admit, the driving controls don’t bother me, but like I said, I’m coming at GTA from a completely fresh perspective with the last GTA game I played being in 2D. For that reason I have found both the story and controls to be absolutely fine. I guess Rockstar couldn’t win; they’d get criticised for straying too far from what the series is known for, but they’d get criticised for not trying anything new. As for playing San Andreas, I doubt I could go back that far. Playing ‘old’ games is something I just can’t seem to do. And I totally tried with Resi 4.

@Roan I have no idea about the ending obviously having not got that far, but I’m definitely intrigued. I wouldn’t mind playing a game where all loose ends aren’t tied up and there isn’t the fairy tale closure to the story we all hope for. I think that’s far more profound than a game where that does happen. I’m looking forward to actually seeing how life pans out for Niko. Oh, and Roman.

@Dan Fair enough, it’s definitely not to everyone’s taste and games are subjective. Your 2 cents are very much welcome! I don’t know why I’m surprised you don’t own any of the current consoles, but I’m tempted to try and talk you into buying a 360 ;)

@Chris Couldn’t agree more about the checkpoint system. Especially as my driving is so bad I’m often getting myself killed :p It does seem a little off that you can drive past a cop car at 120 mph, but even the slightest nudge into them and they’re after you.

@Los Havros I know the feeling, I was there with Oblivion. You want to love it, but you just can’t get into it. Funnily enough though, GTA seems to be the game that’s awoken me from my gaming slumber.

@Daniel Cheers man. I noticed you were on Live playing this the same time as me. 60% is a good chunk through it, and like yourself I’m finding I have to redo missions. However, I haven’t had any glitchy issues with the map or Niko. Man, just talking about this is getting me all geared to fire it up again :p


# October 6th, 2009 at 9:05 am

I’m clearly a little late to this discussion but I’m still a big fan of GTA, I remember writing on @LosHavros’ blog about just how good the characters were, Brucie being my absolute favourite!

I had to redo the final missions soo many times it was so frustrating but I got there in the end. I quite enjoy the driving, the bikes are really hard but TLAD is well worth a look.

I enjoyed the story and I like the fact you don’t end finishing the game owning nearly everything, that gets old really quick…


Rockers Delight

# October 8th, 2009 at 11:20 am

@Dave Brucie is a legend. I’ve just been hanging with him to improve his ‘like’ towards me. He comes out with some great quips. I’m hoping to get as much finished by tomorrow for Operation Flashpoint, but I’ll definitely be going back to it as I’m still beneath 50% completion.


Andrew

# October 29th, 2009 at 12:07 am

This is still my favourite game. I completed the main story in a week or two (was shocked when the last mission ended so abruptly). But I’m sucked in to the perfection of it, I actually agreed with Gamespot’s 10/10 rating. GTA IV online with a big 42″ tv, you just can’t beat it. Furthermore, it’s also the best driving game.:P I am a GTA freak, simple as.

You missed out on the older GTAs, especially San Andreas on the PS2. You could dive out of planes and off buildings with parachutes, skydiving onto other skyscrapers.

The new GTA IV update that’s coming out, The Ballad of Gay Tony, will bring back the parachutes. Multiplayer with parachutes, I can’t wait!


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